March 1, 1995 We have our own usenet now, for the discussion of bottles and glass. It can be found under alt.ccds (choice collecting & diggers society) COLLECTORS BEWARE OF THE FOLLOWING BOTTLES: Dutch Onion Bottles (olive-green) short squat wine bottles, usually made between 1650-1750 with pontil. These are now being reproduced, they look new, any bottle in pristine condition beware of, I hear they are pretty good reproductions. Fruit Jars: plain jars are being color "inhanced" by Gamma Ray's - turning ordinary ball jars in aqua $2 to blue jars $200+, this is being done by a person who labels them color enhanced but these labels are usually removed. The colors all vary -as they don't know what color the jars will turn out when finsihed. These are extremely difficult to tell since they were orginal old jars, best advice: if the color just dosn't look right and the price is too cheap beware. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uncommon Bottles: (don't pass em' up)- Fire Grenades: these bottles were designed to be destroyed in the case of a fire, most common colors are cobalt, greens, amber, and clears. They usually have bands or quilting on them and are embossed with the manufactures name (i.e. Harden's (star) hand fire extinguisher) this by the way is the easiest to find and sells for about $75-+ with the rare colors in the hundreds. They are usually about 6-8" high with a narrow neck and a round (rect) body, can be filled and sealed or empty. Good grenades can cost upwards of $2000- Witch Balls: unlike floats these glass balls have a opening at the top from 1/4" to 1 1/4" wide, they come in a variety of single colors, or may have white loopings, swirls, speckels etc. usually around 3"-5" circum. Sell for as little as $25- to $1,000 (best specimin) Target Balls: like a witch ball, only smaller and has a little opening with a small neck, they usually are colored - blue, green, lavender, amber, and rarely clear. have raised crisscross or bands with embossing of manufacture. $65-2000+, used as target practice they were made to be destroyed. had a question concerning Ravenna, RAVENNA GLASS WORKS: (1857(51)-1880) this glassmaking factory may have begun as early as 1851, the company purchased three pieces of land that comprised more than four acres. The location was in the township of Franklin Ohio, now (Kent). Because of lawsuits the factory was sold to many owners between 1860-1863 John and George Forder, George Massenger and then incorporated in the late 1860's by F.W.Coffin, George Robinson, D.C. Coolman, H.H. Stevens and J.B. Horton. and then purchased by the Diamond Glass Works. The company at this time produced bottles, window glass and made the double-stength windows for the Ohio building in the Philadelphia Centennial Exposition in 1876. According to Van Rensselaer the sand used was taken from Sandy Lake (3 miles SE of Ravenna and hauled by wagons), only a few flasks were marked by this glass company: american eagle-ancor, traveler's companion, plain "Ravenna/Glass/Works":attributed bottles: jenny lind, pike's peak, hunter-pikes' peak with embossing "E.Kauffeld". A worker within the factory was quoted for remembering packing:washington-taylor pint's, calabash bottles with crossed pitchfork and rake, sheaf of rye and jenny lind, union flasks and others! This company may have started as the Seth Day Glass Company. Where to dig/find bottles: ------------------------ bottles turn up all over - farm houses, local auctions, under porches, behind walls, basements, attics, old homes, flea markets, antique shops, thrift shops, antique bottle shows (best spot to find them), and in the ground. When searching for a place to dig look at the surroundings and ask yourself is this area likely to have been near where people used to travel or live? is there a house foundation or a trash pit or privy (outhouse)? the best place to dig is in the trash pit or privy, it's a good bet that a depression that sinks in the ground will likely yield something. While outhouse digging may seem strange and frightning you must put it into context this was over a hundred years ago, and the reward can certainly be worth it. It was common practice to throw your garbage into the privy or local trash pit, the bottles found in the privy will most likely be on the bottom (4'-15' deep) with the newer bottles being closer to the surface. The best diggin is in the east where most of the glasshouses were first settled, the western states also had an abundance of good diggin areas because of the gold rush of the latter 19th century. The midwest has still a large number of spots to dig but the quality of the bottles are usually less valuable. FOR SALE/WANT ADS: Idaho bottles wanted! Also, any western state bottles including WA, OR, NV, CO, NM, and Alaska. We have many bottles to trade and some western bottles for sale as well. E-mail to Dan Marks at email@example.com, or snail mail to Jay Marks 22904 53rd ave SE/ Bothell WA 98021. For Sale: Philidelphia squat soda bottles, blue-green - emerald colors, twichell, russell, g.m.f, and others (some pontil), cardinal ink bottle igloo, amber cigar whiskey. E-mail Glenn at firstname.lastname@example.org for more info. Looking for: Figural Bitter Bottles, inks, perfumes (pontil), glass whimseys (turtles,witch balls,pens), glass pigs - Glenn Special: if anyone is interstead in bitter bottles, you can purchase my book The collectors price guide to bitter bottles a to z, which is the most comphrensive price guide to bitter bottles. Pub price $24.95, will sell to newsletter members for $12- + S.H. (2.00) Still need to know what articles and information your seeking, e-mail me with your questions and comments!