Raleigh Bottle Club - December 2001 Newsletter

Club typically meets the first Tuesday of each month
Next meeting: Tuesday Jan 8, 2002 7-9pm
Meeting will be at Clancey & Theys Construction - see directions below
Presentation: None for January

Topics in this Newsletter (click topic to jump there):
Business President's Message Membership Status Raffle Show & Tell Spring Show
Recent Finds Presentation Meeting Location Agenda Member Ads Show Calendar

The Raleigh Bottle Club is a non-profit organization that provides a forum for area antique bottle collectors to get together, talk bottles, buy/sell/trade, organize club digs, and just have fun. The club also serves the community by answering bottle questions and sponsoring an annual Bottle Show and Sale.
Current 2001/2002 officers:
David Tingen
President
John Arnold
Vice-president
Frank Bishop
Secretary
Reggie Lynch
Treasurer
Newsletter Editor
Show Chairman
Ronald Hinsley
Co-Show Chairman
Raleigh Bottle Club
Web
www.antiquebottles.com/raleigh/
All past newsletters are stored on the club web page for quick&easy reference, so there is no need to print and save them.

Meetings are open to the public, so drop by and check us out. We hope you'll consider joining the club. Club members receive the monthly newsletter, run free ads, and participate in all the fun/benefits the club has to offer.

Business & Misc

38 people attended the Dec 8 meeting which was held at Granddaddy's Antique Mall in Burlington. This was by far our best attendance at a meeting yet. Randy Kiger gave a fantastic presentation on his NC soda bottles - see below. And we saw many members that we don't normally get to see, probably due to the Sat date and western location (some people came all the way down from Asheville). Tom Kleeberg (manager of Granddaddy's) was on-hand and proved the most excellent host, from helping setup the tables we needed to allowing us to do our thing including selling bottles. Tom said we are welcome back to do other meetings. We should have discussion about repeating this event at Granddaddy's, especially since we have other presenters that could only do this arrangement.

At right is picture of the raffle table and some of the crowd. This picture, like most of the rest in this newsletter, can be clicked to see details of the original full size photo. Thanks to David Jackson for providing some of the photos used in this newsletter.

November minutes were approved along with with Oct/Nov treasurer reports. Financial results from Fall Festival were presented - club made a small profit on the event. Excellent feedback from dealers and buyers, so we may want to consider repeating the event next Fall.

David Tingen discussed idea of having no presentation at the first meeting of each quarter to allow more time for chatting and buying/selling. So there will be no presentation at the Jan meeting. JB Young will do the Feb presentation on fruit jars and his other bottles. For other presentation possibilities, see below.

David Jackson told some of his recent digging stories. Scott Berry showed several bottles, including a Pepsi-Cola that was embossed Coca-Cola on the base. He also shared his recent digging stories. See Show & Tell section below for more details.

Club approved next meeting for Tue Jan 8 7pm at Clancey & Theys in downtown Raleigh (our regular spot). There will be no presentation at the Jan meeting so we can focus on show plans and just have fun chatting and doing the buying/selling. So please bring some nice bottles for sale/trade.

Reggie presented a budget proposal for doing our Spring Show at the Holshouser building, along with a floor plan showing layout for 127 dealer tables and 6 display tables. If all tables sold, club will make a nice profit with $25 dealer tables, free public admission, no raffle, and $15 early buyers. Club voted to approved sponsoring the April 27, 2002 show at the Holshouser building. For more details, see below.

Reggie discussed club plans to do presentation at the Raleigh Museum Sat Feb 9 2:00-2:45pm. Members were asked to consider with Raleigh or nearby area bottles they could display and bring list to Jan meeting.

I talked with Eric Warren of the SC Bottle Club. There next show is being moved from the Boys & Girls Club to Meadowlake Park. See the updated Show Calendar below for details.

Here's some photos from our Dec 8th meeting:

Scott Berry and some other members during the meeting.

Charles Batton attracted a feeding frenzy of eager buyers when he unpacked some of the bottles he had recently dug.

President's Message

Those of us who attended the meeting this month, had an opportunity to see a collection that represents years of hard work and dedication. I was pleased with the attendance and the enthusiasm of everyone there. This is further evidence the hobby and interest are alive and well. Thanks to Randy for taking time to make the presentation. Hopefully, in the future, other members can share their stories with the club.

As we approach the year-end, I reflect on where the club has come and how we have grown. I also give thanks for the freedoms we have in America and remember the hard work and dedication of our members in making the Raleigh Club what it is today. Special thanks to Reggie for the time he invests in the newsletter and the show. Thanks to club members for their faithful attendance and efforts.

To each and every one, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

.. David Tingen

Membership - Renewal - Directory

We added 4 new paying members in December: Will Gorges, Tom Kleeberg, Larry Pedelty, Marshall Clements. Total paid members: 92.

The 2001 Club Directory was handed out to members at the Dec 8 meeting. Remaining members will receive theirs by mail.

Thanks to these members who have recently renewed: Emil Sparger

Dues are $10 individual, $15 family. To join the Raleigh Bottle Club, please use the Membership Application web form or contact Reggie for a printed copy. The club newsletter is distributed to over 500 people, mostly in NC and the surrounding states. Members can place free ads, which will be seen by a large number of collectors in our area.

Raffle

The December raffle raised $88 for the club, a new record.

At right is a photo of some of the raffle bottles being offerred at our Jan 8 meeting. From left to right they are: quart slug plate milk QUALITY MILK PRODUCTS / QUALITY CREAMERY / RALEIGH, N.C., half pint slug plate creamer DURHAM ROAD DAIRY / PHONE 3722 / T.R. HARWARD / PROP., quart slug plate milk (this is a tough one to find) FAIRFIELD / DAIRY / WILSON, N.C., and a Mint Cola from Raleigh, NC. Raffle will include other bottles to be furnished at meeting.

Club members are encouraged to bring in bottles for the raffle we will have at each meeting. The raffle is fun for everyone and helps add money to the club treasury. For nicer bottles, the club treasury can reimburse the wholesale cost to the donator. Contact the treasurer before the raffle to make arrangements.

Show & Tell / Bottles For Sale

Members are encouraged to bring bottles into meetings for show and tell. These bottles are good candidates for pictures and maybe stories in our newsletter. But it's also a lot of fun to share and is a big part of what our hobby is about.

Members are also encouraged to bring in bottles for sale, since the opportunity to buy nice bottles is another reason people come to meetings.

Here's some show & tell bottles from the December meeting.

David Jackson holding the C. ALFS Charleston soda shown by Reggie. David was the current high bidder for the bottle's auction on eBay.

Reggie showed these teal and amethyst examples of pontilled Christmas Lights, and explained some of their history. Also known as vigil lights and fairy lights, that were popular decorations in Victorian England. For more info, see www.antiquebottles.com/glass.

Robby Delius shows the front half mold for a Soda Water bottle from the Coca-Cola plant Boca Lousa, Lousiana.

Closeup of the amethyst and teal Christmas lights.

Pem Woodlief shows a Captain Jack whiskey that was put out by the Car-Cal Co of Greensboro.

Closeup of the Captain Jack bottle.

John Patterson brought some of his nice Burlington and Graham milks for display, which were from the area dairies for this meeting location.

John Patterson shows one of the better milk bottles he brought: a Pet Dairy from Burlington.

Raleigh Spring Show Plans

The club voted unanimous approval to hold the 2nd annual Spring Show on Sat April 27, 2002 at the Holshouser Building on the NC State Fairgrounds. Dealer tables (8 ft) will be $25, with capacity for 127 dealer tables. We have allocated room for 6 display tables, and they will be free as usual. General admission from 9:00am-3:00pm will be free with $15 early buying 7:30am-9:00am. Dealer setup starts at 6:00am, which will allow until 7:30am for Dealers (and Displayers) to shop exclusively amongst the other Dealers.

Dealer packages will first be handed out during the Jan 8th meeting, then mailed out after the Jan 8th meeting to dealers from out past two shows (i.e. Spring Show and Fall Festival). Dealer applications will be accepted beginning with the Jan 8th meeting, during which you can also pick your table location. Dealers from our previous shows will be guaranteed a spot if their signed application with check is received by Feb 1.

Full show package and details (this is the full dealer package) can be found on our club's show page:

www.antiquebottles.com/raleigh/Apr2002Show
Reggie is working to meet the Jan 3 deadline for submitting our show package to AB&GC magazine so it's included in the Feb/Mar/Apr issues along with a quarter page ad in each issue.

Recent Finds

If you have any recent finds to post here, or just want to share a favorite bottle, please submit info to the newsletter editor Reggie Lynch. Some pictures can be clicked to see a closeup view.

This amber half-pint SC Dispensary flask was sold recently on eBay for $690 by Singleton Bailey.

The River Swamp / Chill And Fever Cure / Augusta, GA. with embossed alligator and some repaired damage that sold recently on eBay by pephut96 but reserve not met.

HAMPTON & FEATHERSTON / Largest Liquor House / in Western No. Carolina / ASHEVILLE, N.C. was bought recently on eBay by Rodney Leftwich. Has an unusual base with PAT APPLIED FOR stamped on it.

MUNICIPAL DISPENSARY BOYDTON,VA. rare 6 1/2" flask that sold recently on eBay.

Presentation

At the Dec 8th meeting, Randy Kiger gave an awesome presentation of his rare NC soda bottles. David had to announce first that Randy's bottles were all "keepers" and that none were for sale/trade, so please don't hound Randy about selling a bottle after he was nice enough to show them all.

Randy collects NC soda bottles with slug plate embossing and/or "BOTTLING WORKS" embossed on the bottle. Randy went thru seven boxes of some of the rarest NC soda bottles, including a few whiskies and medicines. In some cases he also knew the history to go with the bottle.

Here's a partial list of some of the NC bottles presented by Randy. Unless mentioned otherwise, most of these a BIM crown-top sodas. ABERDEEN BOTTLING WORKS, amber JW COPELAND (common in aqua), J.T. UNDERWOOD / ASHEBORO, Mint Cola / AULANDER, SCHNAPPS / BESSEMER CITY, PIEDMONT MANUFACTURING / CONCORD, J.F. STEGERS / ELIZABETH CITY, amber Gay-Ola / ELK PARK, FRANKLIN BOTTLING WORKS / FRANKLIN, CROWN BOTTLING WORKS / {embossed crown} / GASTONIA, MT VERNON SPRINGS BOTTLING WORKS / ORE HILL (near Goldston), CARPER CARBONATING Co. / NEWTON, MOCKSVILLE BOTTLING WORKS, 3 examples of M.C. MONEY / MAYODAN (one with "Coco-Cola" typo), Mint Cola / LAURENBURG, Pepsi=Cola / Liberty (extremely rare - pictured below), MAGIC BOTTLING WORKS / LINCOLNTON, S.C. HENDERSON / GOLDSBORO, W.L. BOATWRIGHT / HICKORY, I.L. SANDERSON / HALLSVILLE, MONROE ROSCOE / REIDSVILLE, CELICO / RALEIGH (shaped like a BludWine), OXFORD BOTTLING WORKS, SPENCER CARBONATED with embossed train, SANFORD BOTTLING WORKS, bowling pin Indian Rock Ginger Ale from Roanoke Rapids, BERT E. BENNETT / WADESBORO, TUNIS BOTTLING WORKS / TUNIS, IREDELL Pepsi=Cola / Statesville, D.S. BOYLES / WALNUT COVE, DUPLIN MANUF. / WARSAW, Gay-Ola / WARSAW, DEAL & WAGNOR / NEWTON, HICKORY BOTTLING WORKS hutch with tombstone slug plate, STATESVILLE BOTTLING WORKS with blob top soda, FRED MUNZLER / CHARLOTTE blob top beer, RALEIGH STEAM BOTTLING WORKS - two different sizes, CHERO-COLA / PARIS ISLAND - (says its from NC, but that city is only located in SC so may be typo, but there was discussion by some of the old timers that Paris Island may have been a marine base - anyone know for sure?), W.C. McWhirter / CHARLOTTE, YOUNGSVILLE BOTTLING WORKS, DANNENBURG Coca-Cola / GOLDSBORO-WILSON, SOUTHERN BOTTLING WORKS / WASHINGTON with tombstone slugplate on shoulder, L.T. HOLMES & SON / WAYNESVILLE with embossed eagle, L.A. BARNES / WILSON with embossed wishbone, J.R. COBB / BREVARD, Mint Cola / MOORESVILLE, JONES BOTTLING WORKS / RALEIGH, Pepsi=Cola / Rockingham, center script slug plate Coca-Cola / MT. AIRY, PROPERTY OF NORTH WILKESBORO BOTTLING WORKS - vertically embossed, LIMKO BOTTLING WORKS / REIDSVILLE, aqua PIEDMONT BOTTLING WORKS / LENOIR with diamond around embossing, ice blue mint shoulder embossed Coca-Cola / WINSTON, Cristo-Cola / WINSTON-SALEM (2 shapes), ORANGE CRUSH / WINSTON-SALEM (clear and aqua), BENNETT'S COLA / WINSTON-SALEM, only known example of shoulder embossed Coca-Cola / WINSTON-SALEM (usually just see them with WINSTON), CHECKER'S MEDICINE / WINSTON-SALEM / MAKES PEOPLE FEEL NEW OLD OVER (a Casper's product that was mostly alcohol), J.A. & C.E. BENNETT / WINSTON-SALEM (4 varieties), W.C. TISE / WINSTON-SALEM (comes in about 25 different styles), PEOPLE'S FUEL & ICE / WINSTON (2 sizes - pictured below), THEA-SODA / WINSTON SALEM(there is a 1910 postcard with photo of plant), GEORGE WINKLER / WINSTON hutch, DR HUFFINES / GREENSBORO hutch and crown versions, block letter COCA-COLA from GREENSBORO in center slug plate, LANDQUIST & PFOHL CITRATE / SALEM (pictured below), MT AIRY BOTTLING WORKS in watermelon style slugplate, J.E. BOONE BOTTLING WORKS / MT AIRY, KOCA-NOLA / HIGH POINT, HIGH POINT BOTTLING WORKS, and GALLOWAY DRUG CO / GREENSBORO (pictured below).

Below are some picture highlights of his presentation:

Unlisted Pepsi=Cola from Winston-Salem

Randy shows a Pepsi=Cola from Liberty NC, one of his favorite bottles.

Randy shows two different sizes of PEOPLE'S FUEL & ICE / WINSTON, N.C.

LANDQUIST & PFOHL CITRATE / SALEM, N.C. A rare medicine from Salem, NC before it merged with Winston.

A rare peacock green GALLOWAY DRUG CO / GREENSBORO, N.C. bottle.

A rare pint size Casper's 4 cities.

Future Presentations

Looking for other people to sign-up for presentations at future meetings, so please let us know when you would be willing to present. Presentations can be 5 to 60 minutes in length, and you can pick most any topic related to bottles and go-withs. There will be no presentation at the first meeting of each quarter to allow more time for chatting and buying/selling. May get Jimmie Wood to do ACL's and Charlie Perry to do White House Vinegar? J.B. Young has offered to do fruit jars in Feb. Vernon Capps has offered to do USA Hospital bottles in Mar. Russell Griffin has offered to do Coke bottles. Sonny Howell has offerred to do a Sat presentation at Granddaddy's. John Patterson has offered to do a Sat presentation on NC milk bottles at Granddaddy's. Jerry Roughton wrote the book on NC medicines and has agreed to do a presentation on this topic. Will Gorges may present on Civil War era. Talked about a Spring picnic and presentation at Donnie Medlin's house in Louisburg.

Meeting Location

Regular club meetings are held 7-9pm on the first Tuesday of each month at Clancy & Theys Construction Company where club member John Arnold works. Company is located at 516 W. Cabarrus Street in downtown Raleigh (near the AmTrak station). Park in back of building. Call John Arnold on his mobile phone at (919) 427-0334 if you get lost.

Directions from the 440 Beltline: Take Glenwood Ave exit and head in town (away from Crabtree Valley Mall). Cross bridge over Wade Ave and turn right to "clover leaf" onto Wade Ave heading downtown. Merge right onto Capital Blvd heading downtown. Capital Blvd becomes N. Dawson St. Continue 0.7mi and turn right onto W. Cabarrus St. Cross railroad tracks, and just pass the Amtrak Station on right is #516 "Clancy & Theys Construction Co" - park behind building.

Directions from I-40: Take S. Saunders St exit and head North into downtown Raleigh. S. Saunders will turn into S. Wilmington St. Go pass Memorial Auditorium, then 2 blocks later turn left on W. Davie St., left on Dawson St, and right on W. Cabarrus St. Cross railroad tracks, and just pass the Amtrak Station on right is #516 "Clancy & Theys Construction Co" - park behind building.

You can also see directions on the Internet via www.mapquest.com by entering the "516 W. Cabarrus St, Raleigh, NC" address.

Agenda for the next meeting

  1. Bottle sales/trades till meeting starts (helps to arrive a little early).
  2. Sign-in sheet for attendees- introduce newcomers.
  3. Approve treasurer report and previous minutes in newsletter.
  4. Request articles for upcoming newsletters.
  5. Collect ads to run in the next newsletter.
  6. Confirm date of next meeting as Tue Feb 5 7pm at Clancey & Theys in Raleigh.
  7. Whoever has Robby Delius' VCR tape on Coca-Cola, please bring it to the next meeting.
  8. The Baltimore Bottle Club plays something called Bottle Bingo, where the winner gets to pick a wrapped prize from several on a table. They have lots of fun playing it - may be good for one of our meetings?
  9. Have someone solicit News & Observer to do article on club.
  10. Discuss Spring Show. Hand out dealer packages and take first sign-ups for dealer tables - can pick your spot.
  11. Report by Frank Bishop on status of non-profit application.
  12. Meeting presenters - sign-up people to do presentations of their collections at future meetings.
  13. Discuss doing Feb 9th bottle presentation at Raleigh City Museum. Come prepared to list what bottles your can provide for the presentation. Looking for Raleigh and other NC bottles, especially pre-1920.
  14. Open discussion, announcements, digging stories, show & tell, latest bottles aquired, show reports, ...
  15. Invite members to tell story of how they got started in bottle collecting.
  16. Setup/announce any raffle bottles. The club can reimburse a nominal amount for nicer bottles - see treasurer in advance.
  17. Setup/announce any auction bottles. The seller can set a minimum bid with the amount above the minimum going to the club. So please bring any bottles you want to auction (limit 5 per seller).
  18. Sell raffle tickets ($1 each, 6 for $5) while presentor gets ready. Also a good time to examine the raffle and auction bottles.
  19. Presentation.
  20. Auction any bottles being offerred.
  21. Draw winning tickets for the raffle. 1st winner gets first choice and so on till all bottles are gone.
  22. Conclude with Swap Meet - announce who has bottles for sale. Each person is encouraged to bring in bottles for sale/trade. Please limit yourself to a maximum of 4 boxes. Tables will be provided where bottles can be displayed for show or sale.

Member Ads

Ads are posted here free of charge to club members. Submit ad info to club secretary for inclusion in the next newsletter. Ads run for 2 months, then must be renewed to continue.
  1. Wanted: IVEY DAIRY / GRAHAM, NC bottle, MELVILLE DAIRY war bonds, MELVILLE DAIRY baby bottles, HILLSBORO DAIRY items. Larry Pedelty, 2225 Cherry Lane Rd, Haw River, NC 27254 Email: milkman2@mindspring.com

  2. Wanted: Virginia Bottles, any type (Milks, Sodas, Beers, Lithia etc). Judy Foles, (804) 798-7502 or Email: judyfoles@mail.com

  3. Wanted: New Bern related bottles pre-1900 ; anything Civil War, especially North Carolina. Will Gorges, Phone (252) 636-3039, Email: rebel@civilwarantiques.com, Web: www.civilwarantiques.com

  4. Wanted: colored fruit jars to buy, sell, or trade Mike Ferrera, (910) 630-1583, Email: mike_edith@yahoo.com

  5. Wanted: Embossed or painted North Carolina Milk bottles. Scarce to rare wanted especially. Top Dollar. John Patterson, Jr., 412 South Baldwin Ave, Spencer, NC 28159, (704) 636-9510, Email: ncmilks@carolina.rr.com

Upcoming Shows

Also see Antique Bottle Shows, AntiqueNC.com, NC State Fairgrounds Calendar of Events, NC Festivals and Fairs, Southeastern Antiquing & Collecting.

Feb 2, 2002
Rome, GA
Rome Antique Bottle & Collectibles Club's Annual Show & Sale, Sat 8am-3pm at the Rome Civic Center, Turner McCall Blvd, Rome, GA. Info: Jerry Mitchell, PO Box 475, Bremen, GA 30110, Phone: (770) 537-3725 or or Bob Jenkins, 285 Oak Grove Rd., Carrollton, GA 30117, PH: (770) 834-0736.
Feb 3, 2002
South River, NJ
New Jersey Antique Bottle Club's 6th annual show Sun 9am-2pm at the Knight's of Colombus Hall, 88 Jackson St, South River, NJ. Info: Joe Butewicz, NJABC, 24 Charles St, South River, NJ 08882, (732) 238-3238, Email: joseph.butwewicz@bms.com or Ernest Bower, (732) 868-0510, Email: botlman@aol.com
Feb 9, 2002
Sarasota, FL
Sarasota-Mannatee Antique Bottle Collectors Association's 16th Annual Indoor Show & Sale, Sat 10am-4:00pm (dealer setup 7:30-10am) at the Boys & Girls Club at the East end (immediately adjacent to the) Sarasota County Fairgrounds, 3100 Fruitville Rd. Info: Ed Herrold, PO Box 3105, Sarasota, FL 34230, (941) 923-6550.
Feb 9-10, 2002
Raleigh, NC
"Pieces of the Past - Antiques Symposium" at the Raleigh City Museum at 220 Fayetteville Street Mall in downtown Raleigh. Sat 11am-5pm, Sun noon-4pm. Our Raleigh Bottle Club will be doing a 2:00-2:45 presentation on Sat Feb 9th. Museum's phone: (919) 832-3775, web: www.raleighcitymuseum.org
Feb 15-16, 2002
Columbia, SC
South Carolina Antique Bottle Club's 28th annual Show & Sale Fri/Sat. This year show will be a new location at Meadowlake Park. Showtimes will be Friday from 12 noon till 7:30pm. Saturday will open at 9 and go till 2:00. This is a 1/3 larger facility that has no parking problems. It is located off I-20 at exit 71. This is the North Main St exit on Hwy 21. Travel north to the first stoplight after the intersection. Turn right on Beckman Rd and the gym is there on the right. This location is only 3/8 of a mile off I-20 which will make it an easy find. Expect to sale 145 dealer tables. Show flyers will be mailed after Christmas. Email Eric Warren SCbottles@aol.com, 238 Farmdale Dr, Lexington, SC 29073, Phone (803) 951-8860.
Mar 3, 2002
Baltimore, MD
Baltimore Antique Bottle Club 22nd Annual Antique Bottle Show & Sale (Sun. 8 AM - 3 PM) at Essex Community College, 7201 Rossville Blvd., Baltimore, Maryland. Info: Bob Ford, (410) 531-9459, Email: antiquebottles@home.com


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