Russ Butler with Ray Flask at Savannah Show

Southeast Bottle Club
November 2002 Newsletter

Topics in this Newsletter (click topic to jump there):
Happenings Winchester VA Show Richmond VA Show Savannah GA Show Blue Ridge Insulator
Recent Finds Raleigh Club Baltimore Club Member Ads Show Calendar

Southeast Bottle Club
PO Box 13736
Durham, NC 27709
Email: southeast@antiquebottles.com
Web: www.antiquebottles.com/southeast/
Phone: (919) 789-4545, FAX: (561) 760-6246
We welcome articles, stories, finds, and pictures for upcoming issues of the newsletter. All past newsletters are stored on the club web page for quick and easy reference, so there is no need to print them (save a tree instead).

The Southeast Bottle Club is a non-profit organization serving the Southeastern United States. All meetings and events are open to the public, so drop by and check us out. We hope you'll consider joining the club. Club members receive the monthly newsletter via Email or postal mail, run free ads in this newsletter, and participate in all the fun and benefits the club has to offer. Free Email-only membership is also available - just ask. This newsletter is currently distributed to over 1,600 collectors. Info may be reprinted as long as credit is given.

Bits, Pieces, and Happenings

Upcoming Southeast Bottle Club Events

The Southeast Bottle Club is sponsoring two upcoming events. The first is a Antique Bottle Show & Sale in Greensboro, NC on Sunday November 10th. Dealer packages and collector postcards were mailed Sep 22nd to 400+ Southeast collectors in our database who do not have Email. The show is advertised in all the bottle magazines, in all area antique shops, and in the local newspapers so a big turn-out is expected. At this time, 96 dealer tables have been sold. But our facility is huge, with room for 160 tables. So let us know if you want to reserve a table, or take your chances getting one on the day of the show. The full dealer package is available on-line.

The 2nd Southeast Bottle Club event is a Bottle Swap Meet on Saturday December 7th noon-2pm at Granddaddy's Antique Mall in Burlington, NC. There will be an educational presentation on NC milk bottles by John Patterson, the premier collector in this area.
Raffle Bottles for Dec 7th Meeting:
  1. pint slug plate milk "CAPE FEAR DAIRY / WILMINGTON, N.C."
  2. crown top soda "GRANITE / BOTTLING WORKS / GRANITE FALLS, N.C."
  3. pint rectangular NC whiskey "LOWENSTEIN & Co / Old Harvest Corn Whiskey / Statesville, N.C."
Each of these raffle bottles are blown in mold (i.e. BIM, circa 1900-10) and damage free.
Raffle bottles for Dec 7th meeting
Time will be allowed for show & tell, so bring in your latest finds to share with fellow collectors. There will also be time for buying/selling bottles. Everyone is encouraged to bring something to sell, but please limit what you bring to two boxes. Hope to see you at one or both of these events.

Peyton at 2001 Richmond Show

Peyton Youmans Passes Away

Peyton Youmans of GA lost his battle to cancer. Our prayers go out to his family as we remember a collector and dealer who loved the hobby. Peyton's own My eBay page contains this phrase that provides a most fitting epitaph:
FOR 36 YEARS I HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE HOBBY. I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO MAKE MANY FRIENDS THROUGH THE YEARS HAVING HAD SHOPS IN SAVANNAH AND SWAINSBORO AND HAVING PARTICIPATED IN BOTTLE SHOWS THROUGH OUT MANY PARTS OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY. I MUST SAY THAT THE FINEST PEOPLE I HAVE EVER KNOWN ARE PEOPLE THAT I MET IN THE BOTTLE HOBBY. IF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WERE ONE HALF AS GOOD AS MOST OF THESE FOLKS WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THE TRAGEDIES OF THE RECENT DAYS. TO ALL MY FRIENDS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A SINCERE THANKS FOR MAKING ME A PART OF YOUR LIVES. GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Fake Plastic Embossing

Fake Embossing Alert

Tino Romero of Socorro, NM stepped forward to share this info that all bottle collectors and dealers should be aware of. Some unscrupulous people have added fake plastic embossing, to otherwise plain bottles, by making molds from the original embossing. In some cases, this is easy to spot because the embossing is not always crisp. But not always. One clue is that the plastic embosssing can be scratched with a knife, and sometimes starts to peel away from the bottle as shown in the photo to the right.

401-B Account

Have you considered opening up a 401-B account today? You may already have and don't realize it. I'm talking about "B" as in bottles, which have turned out to be a much better investment than our 401-K's. Just think about it - you invest now in a nice bottle, which will probably double in value after 10-20 years. Do you think your 401-K will perform as well? And you can always sell/auction your investment bottles at any time without worrying about retirement age or early withdrawl penalties. Tired of taking a beating in the stock market and in your 401-K? Consider bottles as an investment.

Show Report

This section provides reports on any recent shows, auctions, or other events where bottles were sold. If you are going to a show I plan to attend, please bring your show & tell bottles so I can photograph them and publish in this newsletter.

Winchester VA Show - September 15

The Apple Valley Bottle Collectors Club held their 28th Annual Show & Sale Sunday Sep 15th at the War Memorial Building in Winchester, VA. After having to cancel last year's show due to the 9-11 events, show chairman Frank Kowalski put on another fine show. There were 36 sales tables, 23 early buyers, and 194 paid admissions.

Understand Frank is looking for members to help take over the show chairman and newsletter editor positions. Sure hope someone out there will take over and keep up the Winchester tradition.

This show is traditionally a hot spot for White House Vinegar and Speas Vinegar items. The Ole' Time Vinegar Society held a meeting before the show.

Here are some pictures from the show (click any picture for full view close up). These photos were provided by Irving Robbins - thanks.

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Some nice White House offerings by one of the dealers.
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Richard Venskoske and his wife Lola.
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Some of the crowd at the show.
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White House World's Fair bottle with original label.

Richmond VA Show - October 5

The Richmond Area Bottle Club held it's 31st annual Show & Sale at the Show Place Annex off Mechanicsville Turnpike. The Richmond Antique Extravaganza, going on right next door, helped insure a steady stream of people thru the show. 81 dealer tables were available for buyers to pick from. There were also 23 early buyers and over 200 regular admissions.

Here are some pictures from the show (click any picture for full view close up):

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"Feeding Frenzy" forms to check out bottles offerred by Keith Parrish.
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Gary Guckert of NY had a beautiful offering of higher end bottles.
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The Baltimore Club was well represented by show chairman Bob Ford (left) and president Steve Charing (right).
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Lucy Faulkner, who once again trounced Reggie in the annual ink brag contest (wait till next year).
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Dave Tyree won 1st and People's Choice for his Virginia soda display.
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Reggie Lynch with his slotted shelf (no tools to assemble) that makes displaying "for sale" bottles easier for the buyer (easier to view) and seller (can squeeze more bottles into the limited table space).

Savannah GA Show Oct 18-19

Here are some pictures from the Savannah Bottle Show held October 18-19 in Savannah GA. About 100 dealer tables were sold for this show. I attended and really enjoyed myself at this show. Great hospitality, and a big thanks to show chairmen David Powell and Russ Butler for making it happen.

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Bob Simmons and his grandson Will show an amber Savannah flask.
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Marie Youmans (Peyton's widow) shows a nice amber John Ryan that she picked up at the show.
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Russ Butler shows this amber quart flask embossed "W. H. Ray / SAVANNAH, GA." circa 1879-1880. Russ provided this info: William H. Ray was born in 1850 in Waterbury Connecticut. The eldest son of James Ray, an Irish grocer who moved to Savannah in 1858 and became one of the town's most successful bottlers. William Ray operated his grocery and liquor business on the east end of Bay Street on the edge of the river from 1879 to 1892. This is the only known example and first bottle that has turned up bearing William Ray's name.
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One of the two great display cases packed with many rare and lovely bottles. These cases are a great way to safely share bottles while allowing collectors a close up look.
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Marc Zorbo shows two Charleston sodas he dug: cobalt DAWSON & BLACKMAN and black J.L. KORNAHRENS.
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Chris Maloney (of Charleston SC) showed this "OLD SACHEM / BITTERS / AND / WIGWAM TONIC" barrel in a wild ginger ale color that he is currently running on eBay. See this closeup showing true color.

Blue Ridge Insulator Club - October 19

The Blue Ridge Insulator club held their kick-off meeting on Oct 19th at the home of Kathleen and Bobby Edwards. Members attending included Kathleen and Bobby, Tommy and Cheryl Snead, Gill and Debbie Pollard, Carrie Pollard (daughter of Gill and Debbie), Chris Childress, Larry Neal and Ed Holland.

The swap meet started around 10:00 am with several display tables full of insulators. During the day, several quality insulators found new homes with everyone taking home a jewel or two with them.

Lunch consisted of hamburgers and hot dogs with all the trimmings, baked ranch style beans (thanks Kathleen), potato salad and deserts. No one went hungry.

Club formation and business was discussed. Next meeting is planned for Spring of 2003. Info provided by president Tommy Snead, Email: Bhiveman@aol.com.

Recent Finds

If you have any recent finds to post here, or just want to share a favorite bottle, please submit info to newsletter editor Reggie Lynch. Most pictures can be clicked to see the original full view before it was cropped to fit here.

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This amber 1/2 pint SC DISPENSARY union flask with partial label sold for $1,275 on eBay. Who says a label doesn't help! Also see picture of front.
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Usually a $100-200 bottle, this pristine example with full label sold for $548 on eBay. Also see full size with label and label closeup.
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Check out the great olive swirls in this half gallon Mason 1858 fruit jar that sold for $310 on eBay by xx78@msn.com.
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Green tinted SC DISPENSARY half pint rum bottle with palmetto tree sold $416 on eBay.
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Rory Martin sent in these pictures of an iron pontilled cathedral that he picked up recently at the Greensboro NC Big Flea Market (same Flea Market that will be going on the weekend of the Nov 10th Greensboro Bottle Show).
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This bottle embossed "BEAR LITHIA WATER / BEAR LITHIA WATER {across bear picture} / TRADEMARK / ELKTON, VA" sold for $329 on eBay. by Keith Blasdel.
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Shot glass that with acid etched words that read "Souvenir / {pair of clasped hands} / Welcome / GERMAN BAPTIST CONFERENCE / ROANOKE, VA 1899" and back reads "TAKE VICTOR LIVER SYRUP". Sold $54 on eBay.
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Info from seller Greg Spurgeon: These jars have been long-known in the fruit jar collecting hobby as reproductions. They were made in the fall of 1971. They came in several "dream colors"....cobalt blue, emerald green, milk glass, carnival glass, black purple and amber. They are easily recognized by their base marking of "971" which stood for the date of September 1971. They also have three vertical mold seams, unlike any antique Mason jar. They were not intended to fool anyone, but rather made as a fantasy item for collectors. The example shown sold for $34 on eBay.
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Stoneware Tenn pint beer stenciled "THE MOERLEIN-GERST-BREWING CO.OLD JUG LAGER FULLY MATURED, A VERITABLE LUXURY. THE FASHIONABLE BEVERAGE OF THE DAY. BRILLIANT IN COLOR, ABSOLUTELY PURE, STIMULATING, REJUVENATING. NASHVILLE, TENN. U.S.A". This variant with rooster is rarer than one with Tenn state seal. Sold on eBay by Frank Rains for $118.
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2 gallon stacker style jug stencilled with "HARLEY WICKAM / WHOLESALE LIQUOR DEALER / STONE MOUNTAIN, GA." sold for $90 on eBay.
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Thanks to Teddy Speas for passing along this info. This No Deposit / No Return 10 oz Coca-Cola bottle sold for $650 on eBay by Alan Wright. The no deposit bottles are the hot new category in soda bottle collecting.
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This center script slug plate "WILMINGTON, N.C. / Coca-Cola / BOTTLING CO." sold for $125 on eBay.
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Hutchinson soda embossed "PETEET SON'S / BOTTLING CO. / MADISON, GA" sold for $482 on eBay.
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Half gallon "LINCOLN LITHIA / TRADE MARK / SPRING WATER / L L W / REGISTERED MAY 1 1900 / LINCOLNTON, N.C." sold $151 on eBay.
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7" amber blob soda embossed "JOHN RYAN / 1866 / SAVANNAH, GA. / CIDER" sold $255 on eBay.
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Decorated pottery bottle signed on base by the late John Meaders and his wife. Sold $537 on eBay.
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Despite some minor damage, this bowling pin shaped "INDIAN ROCK / GINGER ALE / RICHMOND / PEPSI:COLA CO / RICHMOND / VA" sold for $651 on eBay.
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Clear bottle with amethyst tint embossed "REGISTERED / DR PEPPER / KING OF BEVERAGES / ARTESIAN / MFG & BOT CO. / WACO, TEX." sold $549 on eBay.

Raleigh Show & Tell

Pictures from the October 2nd meeting of the Raleigh Bottle Club, which had a great show & tell by all members. The club officers called each member the night before to encourage them to bring nicer bottles for show & tell. The result was incredible, with many amazing items being shown (sorry I didn't have room to show them all).

The club is gearing up for it's 3rd annual show & sale on March 22, 2003 in the Holshouser Building on the NC State Fairgrounds in Raleigh, NC.

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Charlie Perry showed these two block letter bowling pin COCA-COLA bottles: amethyst tinted from NEWPORT NEWS, VA and aqua from HENDERSON, NC.
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Donnie Medlin showed this rare candy-stripe Dr Pepper. See close-up.
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Sterling Mann showed this Pepsi ink blotter from New Bern, which advertises "The Pepsin Drink", dating this unique piece around 1902-05. See close-up.
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Reggie Lynch showed his recently aquired collection of 3 different Old Nick Whiskey bottles from Williams, NC. A quart and pint are for lock box 26, and the other pint is for lock box 11. The two pints also have most of their original labels.
Chris Rowell

Baltimore News

Baltimore Bottle Club president Steve Charing provided this news.

Photo at right shows Chris Rowell, BABC member, showcasing his high-end Baltimore torpedo sodas and pontiled medicines at the club's October meeting.

The Baltimore Antique Bottle Club is gearing up for its 23rd Annual Show and Sale on March 2, 2003. It is the largest one-day bottle show in the world with over 300 tables and nearly 1,400 from the public attending this past show. Dealers form the 2002 show have right of retention. However, a good number reluctantly drop out for one reason or another. Therefore, the club is assembling a waiting list for those who wish to participate in the major bottle event. Vacant tables are filled according to the order of postmarkof the returned contract/payment. For more information, please contact show chairman Bob Ford at 410-531-9459 or Email him: bottles@comcast.net Or you may visit the club's website at www.antiquebottles.com/baltimore


Member Ads

Ads are posted here free of charge to paid Southeast Bottle Club members. Submit ad info to the newsletter editor for inclusion in the next newsletter. Ads run for 2 months, then must be renewed to continue. If your ad ran before and you want to run it again without changes, just request "repeat same ad".
  1. Wanted: Williston Florida soda bottles and Robinson Dairy milk bottles. Call (352) 528-2698.

  2. Want to buy or trade: NC and GA advertising jugs and whiskey flasks, error fruit jars, and "when empty return to:" stencil jugs. Bill Wrenn, (706) 769-8995, Email: minijug@aol.com.

  3. Wanted: amber S-S Coke in undamaged condition (some stain/wear OK) from Washington NC or Greenville NC. Al Simmons, (843) 873-7868, Email: GASIMMO@westvaco.com

  4. Wanted: colored pontilled blob top soda bottles and NC whiskey flasks in undamaged condition. Reggie Lynch, Email: rlynch@antiquebottles.com, phone: (919) 789-4545. Check out my bottles for sale on the Internet www.antiquebottles.com/rl/ and in booth 615 at Granddaddy's Antique Mall in Burlington, N.C. Contact Reggie to consign your nicer bottles for sale/auction and receive top dollar.

Calendar of Events and Upcoming Shows

Also see Antique Bottle Shows and Southeastern Antiquing & Collecting.

Nov 10, 2002
Greensboro, NC
1st annual Greensboro Antique Bottle & Collectibles Show & Sale on Sunday Nov 10, 2002 at the Farmer's Curb Market on 501 Yanceyville St, Greensboro, NC. Public admission 9am-3pm for $1. Dealer setup 6am-9am, 5 ft table $15, 10 ft table $25. Early buyers $10 7:30am. Info: David Jackson (336) 288-2677 or Reggie Lynch (919) 789-4545, PO Box 13736, Durham, NC 27709. Web: www.antiquebottles.com/greensboro/
Nov 23, 2002
Bradenton, FL
The Sarasota-Manatee Antique Bottle Collectors 18th Annual "Tail-Gators" Outdoor Show & Swap Meet 9am-2pm at the Glass Blowers Union Hall Grounds, 3309 Ninth Street East, Bradenton, FL. Info: Ed Herrold, PO Box 18928, Sarasota, FL 34276. PH: (941) 923-6550.
Dec 7, 2002
Burlington, NC
Southeast Bottle Club hosts a Bottle Swap Meet on Saturday December 7th noon-2pm at Granddaddy's Antique Mall in Burlington, NC. Meet will include show & tell, swap meet (bring your bottles to sale), raffle, free appraisals, and an educational presentation on NC milk bottles by John Patterson.
Feb 1, 2003
Rome, GA
The West Georgia Bottle & Collectibles Club Show & Sale, Sat 8am-3pm at the Rome Civic Center, Turner McCall Blvd, Rome, GA. Info: Jerry Mitchell, PO Box 475, Bremen, GA 30110, Phone: (770) 537-3725, Email: mitjt@hotmail.com or Bob Jenkins, PH: (770) 834-0736.


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