Southeast Bottle Club

Southeast Bottle Club
Nov/Dec 2005 Newsletter

Topics in this Newsletter (click topic to jump there):
SC Dispensary Book Planned Events Membership Status Blount Springs Greensboro NC
Recent Finds Raleigh Club Member Ads Show Calendar .

Southeast Bottle Club
Editor: Reggie Lynch
PO Box 2286
Forest, VA 24551
Email: southeast@antiquebottles.com
Web: www.antiquebottles.com/southeast/

Why haven't I been receiving the newsletter?

I want to apologize for being way behind on getting the newsletter published and distributed. But I lost my job of 23 years after several rounds of layoffs last year. I've found it terribly difficult to land a similar job in my industry. So I've been taking classes and doing very intensive job searches. I finally landed a contract job in February, but that job ends in a month due the company's poor financial results. Oh well. Good news is that I may have landed a solid permanent position - will know soon. Other good news is that I've finished my classes and now have some time to focus on the newsletter. I've captured everything I need to write the past issues; just need the time to do it. So I appreciate everyone's patience while I play catch up and get settled into a new job.

About the Southeast Bottle Club

We welcome articles, stories, finds, and pictures for upcoming issues of the newsletter. Newsletters are released bi-monthly. For example, a Jan/Feb newsletter covers events in Jan-Feb, so it will not be released until March. All past newsletters are stored on the club web page for quick and easy reference, so there is no need to print them (save a tree instead). Information within this newsletter may be reprinted as long as credit is given to the source.

The Southeast Bottle Club is a non-profit organization serving the Southeastern United States. All events and shows are open to the public, so drop by and check us out. Club members receive the monthly newsletter via Email or postal mail, run free text ads in this newsletter, and participate in all the fun and benefits the club has to offer. An application can be found on the last page of the printed version or by clicking here. Free Email-only membership is also available - click here to request it.

South Carolina Dispensary Bottle Book

This issue the book corner features The South Carolina Dispensary" book by Harvey S. Teal and Rita Foster Wallace. Collectors and historians interested in the state whiskey dispensary systems in America will find this book of great value.

The hardbound, full color, 176-page book contains a wealth of information on the Palmetto State’s system founded by Gov. Benjamin Ryan (Pitchfork Ben) Tillman. The South Carolina Dispensary program was in business from 1893 until 1907.

Of interest to collectors are full-color photos of every known example of S.C. Dispensary bottles, as well as the stoneware jugs. In addition, Teal has included color photos of local flasks from South Carolina merchants, who were forced to eliminate those containers once the state system came into effect. As a result, local flasks are mostly rare. Mini jugs issued by many of those merchants also are pictured.

Historians will appreciate the immense amount of meticulous work of Teal that resulted in previously unknown glass house records, among other things.

Potters who manufactured and decorated jugs especially for the Dispensary included W.F. Hahn and Joseph Gregory Baynham, both of Trenton, S.C. Teal was not able to trace the makers of Bristol-glazed stoneware decorated with blue-inked stencils of the palmetto tree. Teal said records showed that Baynham asked 7 cents a gallon for the estimated 4,100 jugs his pottery produced. Hahn received 8 cents per gallon. "There was no quality control back in those days," Teal said. "We measured the capacity of several of Baynham’s jugs and found the one-gallon jugs and half-gallon jugs each held more than the capacity listed. And, by the way, Tillman’s first batch of whiskey came on credit."

Mrs. Wallace’s contributions are historical in nature and capped her exhaustive study of approximately "100 cubic feet of 100-year-old records," she told the crowd gathered for the book signing at the Kershaw County (S.C.) Fine Arts Center in Camden last Sept. 11. The records perused also included constabulary data from the police force Tillman established to enforce the dispensary laws.

Their book replaces another written by Dr. Phillip Kenneth Huggins of Columbia, S.C., and published by Sandlapper Press in 1971. That book, the hardcover version long out of print, but still available in softbound, was considered the "bible" by S.C. Dispensary bottle collectors. . .until now.

Dr. Huggins was present at the book signing, as was Austin M. Sheheen Jr., of Camden, a collector who underwrote the cost of publishing the book. The first edition numbers 1,000 copies.

The book is available directly from Harvey Teal, 2337 Terrace Way, Columbia, SC 29205 for $44 plus $3.50 in shipping charges.

Thanks to Bill Baab for the above write-up



Click to see close-up of Raffle Bottles for Summer Swap Meet

Planned Events for Southeast Bottle Club

The Southeast Bottle Club sponsors an annual show, a spring and fall festival, and other events each year. Here's the list of upcoming events:
  1. Summer Swap Meet Saturday July 29, 2006 noon-2pm at Granddaddy's Antique Mall in Burlington NC. Everyone is encouraged to bring a max of two boxes of bottles for sale/trade; there is no charge to setup and sell and this event. There will be an educational presentation (speaker to be announced) and raffle with some great bottles (pictured above) which include a cobalt blue cathedral style CARTER'S INK, blob DH KING soda from WINSTON NC, VALAER hutch from CHARLOTTE, NC, amber LIGHTNING fruit jar, and any other donations. For a PowerPoint flyer on this event, click here

  2. Fall Festival Saturday Sep 23, 2006 9am-3pm outdoors on the lawn at the NC State Fairgrounds. This is the same weekend as the Sep 22-24 Southern Ideal Home Show and Sep 22-23 Liberty Antique Festival. Full details at: www.antiquebottles.com/raleighfestival

  3. 5th Annual Greensboro Antique Bottle, Insulator & Collectibles Show & Sale Sunday Nov 19, 2006 9am-3pm in Greensboro NC. Full details at www.antiquebottles.com/greensboro

The club maintains a web page directory where we publish a list of antique shops that help us promote our bottle events by allowing us to place flyers in their shops. This page is located at: www.antiquebottles.com/shops.html
Contact us if your shop is willing to distribute bottle event flyers in exchange for a free listing on this web page directory.

Membership Status for Southeast Bottle Club

The Southeast Bottle Club does not require membership to receive its newsletter by Email or to attend any of its events. The newsletter is distributed free by Email to encourage more bottle collectors to participate in the events sponsored by the club and the other clubs in the Southeast region. But paid membership is encouraged to help support the many activites sponsored by the club. So why not consider joining today? Click here for the online membership application, or for a printed copy just fill out the application on the back page of each newsletter. Remember that paid members can run free ads in this newsletter, and when you consider the newsletter is distributed to over 4,300 bottle collectors, that's pretty cheap advertising for your precious bottle dollars.

Thanks to these new members who recently paid dues to join the Southeast Bottle Club: Donald Allen - Spring Lake NC, Bob Wagoner - Misenheimer NC.

and thanks to these collectors who recently renewed their membership: TBD (I've received many renewals that need to be processed).

Blount Springs

The cobalt blue BLOUNT SPRINGS / NATURAL / SULFUR WATER bottle at the right is the pint size that was given away during the raffle at the July 2005 swap meet in Burlington. Note that all Blount Springs bottle have a smooth (not ground) flat top, which is not damage but part of the original manufacturing process.

The following article on Blount Springs was contributed by Bill Baab. Thanks, Bill, for all your great articles and contributions to the hobby.

About 25 years ago, advertisements began appearing in bottle magazines selling "cobalt Michigan sodas" embossed Blount Springs Natural Sulphur Water. Another seller said the bottle was from Pennsylvania. As most collectors now know, Blount Springs is located in north central Alabama.

J.H. Harris and J. Perrine bought the land and named it "Blount" (pronounced blunt) for the county and "Springs" for the natural springs that flowed freely. During the early 19th century, doctors gave much credibility to the healing properties of the minerals contained in the natural springs. Harris and Perrine cleaned up the springs, built several cottages and advertised it as "the most comfortable and pleasant resort to all those who may visit it in pursuit of either health or amusement."

Blount Springs became known as "Alabama’s Fountain of Youth." Legend has it that young Davy Crockett, while traveling through the state in the 1830s, "took ill" and visited Blount Springs to rest in the cool country air and drink the spring’s healing waters before moving on.

In 1899, A.W. and E.L. Smith of Avondale, Ala., and E.P. Riggs of Birmingham petitioned the Blount County probate judge to incorporate the "Blount Springs Development Company." Among other things, the petition called for the right "to buy, own, sell, lease or rent real estate. To build, own, operate, sell or lease hotels, sanitariums, bath-houses, laundrys, livery-stables, electric lights or power plants, water works and other necessary or desirable things to develop and operate a pleasure or health resort or sanitarium. To bottle and sell mineral waters, to charge and collect fees for privileges of springs and springs grounds."

Unfortunately, there are no records in the Blount Springs archives indicating where the cobalt quart and pint bottles were made. More than likely they came from glass factories in New York, New Jersey or Pennsylvania. The author owned a pint and dug a quart bottle in Augusta years ago. He contacted Blount County historian Warren Weaver and learned the springs’ museum did not own a whole bottle, just shards. So in exchange for the articles of incorporation and other historic data, the pint bottle was mailed to Weaver.

Show Reports

This section provides reports on any recent shows, auctions, or other events where bottles were sold. If you are going to a bottle show that Reggie plans to attend, please bring your show & tell bottles so he can photograph them and publish in this newsletter. If you attend a show in the Southeast and want your pictures/story published here, then just submit your info.

Greensboro NC Bottle Show November 20, 2005

The Southeast Bottle Club presented its 4th annual Antique Bottle Show & Sale in Greensboro NC on Sunday Nov 20th. This year's show had 49 dealers and 124 tables. With many shows on a decline, it was nice to see our numbers were about the same as last year. There was also a larger public attendance, helped by expanded advertising which included a pre-show TV spot on the local TV station.

Dealers reported moderate to great sales, while many collectors reported being very happy with their purchases. Many say that while eBay has a good offering of bottles year round, there's no substitute for buying a bottle in person so you can inspect if first hand before forking over your hard earned money. Besides, many dealers sell only at shows, making the shows the best place to pickup hard to find regional bottles.

There were lots of interesting finds brought in for show & tell, some of which were sold to happy buyers. Beside the show and tell items listed below, some other notables were:

Thanks to everyone who brought in the many interesting items for show and tell.

Next year's show is scheduled for Sunday November 19, 2006.

To see all the pictures taken at the show, click here.

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Corky Shore, David Jackson, and Dennis Smith pause for a picture during the show action. Dennis Smith, a Celery Cola collector, made the trip down from Buffalo NY and was very happy with the numberous bottles he bought for his collection and for re-sale.
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Jim Swiggett shows this citron colored Pitkin swirl flask he brought in for appraisal - what a color!
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Show floor after things slowed down from the morning rush.
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The lucky raffle winner collects his prize from Linda Lynch, who was running the admission table.
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Corky Shore appraises a rare size SPEAS VINEGAR jar brought that made the couple feel like they were on the Anitques Road Show once Corky disclosed the price.
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Scott Berry showed this pair of D.R. HUFFINES bottles. The one on the left is the crown top soda from Greensboro. The one on the right is a rare blob top beer from Fayetteville.
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Howard Crowe, who always offers an impressive selection of bitters, inks, poisons, and flasks, talks bottles with some collectors.
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Dealer Alan McCarthy, who made the trip up from Panama City FL, showed this rare pontiled black glass bottle with shoulder seal that read NCP and a picture of what looks like a fish or duck. Alan's table had an impressive offering of various black glass bottles and others.

Recent Finds

This section includes recent items sold on eBay and other items shared by collectors. If you have a recent find to post here, or just want to share a favorite bottle, please submit info to the Southeast Newsletter Editor. Most pictures can be clicked to see the original full size view before it was cropped to fit here.

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9 3/4" clear strap-sided flask embossed W. ROBINSON / DEALER IN / WINES / & LIQUORS / 23 N. 18TH ST. / RICHMOND, VA." sold on eBay by wadad.
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Amethyst 2 3/4" target ball embossed BOGARDUS GLASS BALL / PATD. APRL 10, 1877' sold on eBay by simonsays. Normally the Bogardus balls are seen in amber.
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S-S Coke embossed ST. PETERSBURG / Coca-Cola / BOTTLING CO. in circular slug plate sold on eBay by cqb9021.
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Aqua 9 1/4" blob beer embossed R. Portner's Beer / Trade Tivoli Mark / C. & W. AGts. / Richmond. Va. sold on eBay by mine2byors.
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Tiny case gin, only 1 1/4" tall with pontil base sold on eBay by millerzt.
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Amber 9" figural bitters embossed Lacour's Bitters / Sarsapariphere sold on eBay by moby2you.
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Green 9 1/2" pint embossed WARNER'S SAFE CURE / PRESSBURG sold on eBay by antikzsolt.
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Amber 9 1/4" pint embossed WARNER'S SAFE CURE / PRESSBURG sold on eBay by figscollectibles. Pressburg was the AUSTRIO-UNGARN name for the city with is BRATISLAVA, SLOVENIA today (once a HUNGARIAN Territory). Warner's produced his Kidney & Liver Cures in Pressburg fom 1889 to 1891, before being forced to close due to financial difficulties.
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Aqua 6 7/8" blob top soda embossed ROBT. MASSENBURG / HAMPTON / VA. in tombstone slugplate sold on eBay by wish-man.
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Green 11 1/4", circa 1958, 24 oz Mountain Dew Bottle by Charlie and Bill. This bottle was produced in the Tri-City, Johnson City TN area. Sold on eBay by dollarsblue. The 24 oz "by Charlie and Bill" bottle is one of the six most coveted Mountain Dew bottles and the second rarest bottle in any Mountain Dew collector's collection.
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After seeing so many repros of this bottle, it's refreshing to see an original Thatcher milk embossed on front absolutely pure milk / {pic of man milking cow / The Milk Protector and on reverse with to be used only as designated-milk and cream jar. Base embossed Thatcher MFG CO. Potsdam, N.Y.. Top reads pat'd April 27-86. Sold on eBay by advplay.
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Embossed MOHAWK PEPSI-COLA BOTTLING WORKS / 30 FL.OZ. / SCHENECTADY N.Y. with wire porcelain closure sold on eBay by 1pepsiman.
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Cobalt blue bottle embossed AYER'S HAIR VIGOR with original label and original box sold on eBay by bottlegary.
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Cobalt blue target ball embossed BOGARDUS GLASS BALL PAT'd APR 10th 1877 sold on eBay by paisleypelican. Another rare color for this ball that is normally found in amber.
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3" cobalt coffin shaped embossed POISON / DP with skull and crossbones sold on eBay by rockon52.
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Circa 1905 celluloid watch fob with score keeper advertising Dr Pepper sold on eBay by dianewaco.
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Aqua 7 3/4" pint strap-sided flask embossed W.A. Herzog & Co. / Liquor Dealers /Petersburg, Va. sold on eBay by slimdigger. Vernon Grant's "Bottled In Petersburg" states that William A. Herzog ran a saloon at 133 Halifax St. from 1901-1908. He knows of a clear half pint strap embossed W.A. Herzog / The Klondyke / Petersburg , Va. but this pint example with different embossing may be unique.
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Amber half-pint embossed WARNERS SAFE TONIC / ROCHESTER N.Y. in full slug plate and embossed A. & H.D.C. on the base sold on eBay by eromnud.
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4-log Drake's Plantation Bitters in rare lemon yellow color sold on eBay by jpotluck.
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Squat style yellow amber GLOBE jar with original closure, lot 25 in Heckler's Nov 2005 Auction. Believed to be unique in this color.
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Yellow amber 9" figural whiskey embossed Callahan's / Old Cabin / Whiskey lot 28 in Heckler's Nov 2005 Auction. This same bottle was pictured on a postage stamp.
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Chocolate amber flask embossed LOUISVILLE / KY / GLASSWORKS with eagle on reverse sold on eBay by tjsdsm.
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Olive amber 9 3/4" Saratoga style embossed SHELDON A SPRING / SHELDON VERMONT sold on eBay by bottleski. This 34-35 oz magnum size is larger than the standard quart size this bottle usually comes in.
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Amber label-only ink for Thaddeus David's Ink with picture of NY skyline sold on eBay by vainkcollector. Base is embossed PATENTED Feb. 16, 1886.

Raleigh Show & Tell

Here are some pictures from the Oct/Nov/Dec meetings of the Raleigh Bottle Club. Click any picture below to see a close-up.

Note that the Raleigh Club meets the first Tuesday of each month. For more details, including directions to the meeting, see www.antiquebottles.com/raleigh/
The Raleigh club meets at the Glen Laurel Clubhouse at 4330 Galax Drive in Raleigh.

To see all pictures, click for October, November, or December.

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Reggie presented his collection of bitters bottles and related advertising.
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Members examine the bottles and items brought in for best finds of the year awards.
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Jack's collection of three different F.L. Bailey / Raleigh, N.C. flasks.
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Jack Murdock explaining the story behind one of his Bailey/Raleigh flasks.
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Pem Woodlief showed this trade card for S.M. Beaseley's Magnolia Bar in Magnolia, N.C.
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The Raleigh club treated members to a Christmas dinner during the December meeting.

Member Ads

Text ads are posted here free of charge to paid Southeast Bottle Club members. Submit ad info to the newsletter editor for inclusion in the next newsletter. Ads run for 2 months, then must be renewed to continue. If your ad ran before and you want to run it again without changes, just request "repeat same ad".

To run a display ad in this newsletter, contact the newsletter editor. Ads can be submitted as a JPG picture attached to Email, or just mailed a printed copy. Note the inexpensive cost of running your display ad in the most widely distributed publication for antique bottle collectors: Spencer Carbonating with Locomotive
Ad Size Single Issue Three Issues
1/4 page $40 $100
1/2 page $70 $180
full page $140 $350

  1. Wanted & For Sale: Always looking to buy old bottles, even whole collections. Especially older Coke, Pepsi, inks, blob top sodas, and NC whiskey flasks. Paying top dollar for an undamaged example of the SPENCER CARBONATING Co / SPENCER, N.C. bottle with embossed picture of train locomotive - pic of slug plate shown above. Contact Reggie Lynch, Email: rlynch@antiquebottles.com, phone: (919) 789-4545. Check out my bottles for sale on the Internet www.antiquebottles.com/rl/ and in booth 615 at Granddaddy's Antique Mall in Burlington, N.C.

  2. Wanted: early pre-1915 SS Coca-Cola bottles from Florence, Sheffield, and Tuscumbia Alabama. Premium paid for near mint to mint condition. Contact Tom at tom@tkilgo.com

  3. Wanted: Montgomery, AL Brewery Bottles. Interested in other small Southern brewery bottles, blobs especially. Cash or trade. I've just a small collection and desire to add to it. Call Rowdy Barton, (334) 546-6987, Email thecoldestbeer@hotmail.com

  4. For Sale or Trade: Bitters, Flasks, Poisons, Inks and miscellaneous antique bottles. Always interested in buying good bottles, one bottle, or a collection. Howard Crowe, PO Box 133, Gold Hill, NC 28071 phone: (704) 982-0305.

  5. Wanted: PORCELAIN NORTH & SOUTH CAROLINA LICENSE PLATES - CITY & COUNTY ISSUES, PASSENGER, DEALER, MOTORCYCLE, ETC. TOP DOLLAR PAID FOR QUALITY EXAMPLES. PLEASE CONTACT: ERIC TAYLOR, 9921 GERALD AVENUE, NORTH HILLS, CA 91343; PH: 818-893-8221; CELL: 818-645-6172; EMAIL: erict4456@earthlink.net

  6. Wanted: Colored blob top sodas from Georgia and South Carolina; historical flasks (especially Louisville double eagle and Corn For The World in color); green Drake's Plantation Bitters - Mike Newman, (706) 868-8391, Email: thenewm@aol.com

  7. Wanted: Good GA and AL bottles & jugs including stencilled, incised, traditional alkaline-ash glaze, miniature & pottery pigs. Good colored blob top sodas and pontiled bottles of any type from any deep south state. Call Tom Hicks, (706) 485-9280.

  8. Want to buy, sell or trade: any condition NC or GA advertising jugs or strap-sided flasks and southern pottery, face jugs, error fruit jars, and saloon advertising. Bill Wrenn at (706) 372-3793, Email: ncjugs@charter.net.

Calendar of Events and Upcoming Shows

Also see Antique Bottle Shows which has year round listings and more links to sites with shows.

June 2-3, 2006
Lumberton, NC
Antique Bottle & Collectible's Show & Sale sponsored by Robeson Antique Bottle Club. Free Admission Fri 3-9pm, Sat 9am-3pm. Dealer setup Fri 1pm. Location: The Expo and Farmer's Market, Exit 14 off I-95 in Lumberton, NC. 7,000 square foot air-conditioned convention building with excellent lighting & facilities. 100+ dealer tables.
Info: Paul Valenti, phone (910) 738-3074, Email: cbaxley@nc.rr.com
CANCELLED
Knoxville, TN
For the first time, the "Knoxville in June" show has been CANCELLED due to escalating building rental rates. Show chairman Larry Acuff has not been successful in finding another place where he can afford to have it.
July 8-9, 2006
Houston, TX
Gulf Coast Bottle & Jar Club 37th Annual Show & Sale Sat 9am-4pm and Sun 9am-1:30pm at the Doubletree Hotel, 6505 Interstate Highway 35 North, Austin, TX. Info: JIM BATES, Email: batesjimir@aol.com or BOB & CAROLYN BERRY, Email: pyrex553@aol.com
July 15-16, 2006
Adamstown, PA
Shupp's Grove 5th Annual Bottle Festival, (formerly York Bottle Festival), Sat/Sun 6am-dark at Shupp's Grove, Adamstown, PA. Dealer unload Fri 1:00pm, Early buyers Fri 5:00pm. Info: STEVE GUION, PH: (717) 560-9480, Email: affinityinsurance@dejazzd.com or JERE HAMBLETON, PH: (717) 393-5175, Email: jshdetector@webtv.net
July 29, 2006
Burlington, NC
Southeast Bottle Club Swap Meet, Raffle and Presentation Sat noon-2pm at Granddaddy's Antique Mall in Burlington, NC. Like all Southeast Bottle Club events, this swap meet is open to the public, so members and non-members may attend. Everyone is encouraged to bring bottles for sell and trade - but please limit what you bring to what will fit in two boxes. There will be an educational presentation (to be announced). Please bring a folding chair to help us with the seating. There will be a raffle with some great bottles. Free appraisals will be given, and there will be free bottles for kids. Some come join us for the fun. Directions: in Burlington NC take Exit 145 at I-40/I-85, then north on Maple Ave about 1/4 mile. Grandaddy’s is on the right at 2316 Maple Ave. For a PowerPoint flyer on this event, click here.
August 12, 2006
Vicksburg, MS
9th Annual Vicksburg Antique Bottle Show & Sale, 8am-4pm at the Battlefield Inn, 4137 N. Frontage Rd, I-20 Exit 4-B, Vicksburg, MS. Info: Cason Schaffer, 107 East View Drive, Vicksburg, MS 39183 phone (601) 638-1195.
Aug 18-19, 2006
Norcross, GA
36th Annual Atlanta Bottle Show & Sale Fri. noon-5pm & Sat. 9am-4pm at the North Atlanta Trade Center, 1700 Jeurgens Court, Norcross, GA. Info: Jack Hewitt, 1765 Potomac Court, Lawrenceville, GA 30243. PH: (770) 963-0220, Email: hewittja@bellsouth.net or John Joiner, PH: (770) 502-9565, Email: propjj@numail.org
Aug 20, 2006
Moorefield, WV
The Potomac Highlands Antique Bottle and Glass Collector's Club, 8th Annual Show and Sale, 9am-3pm at the Moorefield Fire Co. Auxiliary Bldg., (the blue bldg. along the RR on Jefferson St.) in Moorefield, WV. Info: Rodney Funkhouser, 1968 Brants Teets Rd, Baker, WV 26801, phone (304) 897-6910, Email: rfmfg@hardynet.com

Southeast Bottle Club T-shirts, Caps, Tote Bags

Show your pride in Southeast bottle collecting by buying one of the t-shirts, caps, tote bags, or other items bearing the Southeast Bottle Club logo. These items can be ordered online at:
www.cafeshops.com/sebottleclub
If your club would like to setup their own site to sell stuff with their logo, contact my wife Linda Lynch at Email llynch@nc.rr.com

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